Wednesday, September 27, 2006

The Pope, Uri Averny, & Halla


The Error of his Ways:

The Pope's words have created a lot of fuss these days, by the Jihadists, with whom it is "off with their heads!" at every available turn. The full text of the Pope's words can be found here

The latest Jihadi supporter to slam the Pope is Uri Averny, and his article Mohammed's Sword can be found here

Halla has found certain errors in the article by Averny, and here is Halla's analysis of Averny's article:

Avnery wrongly corrected the Pope on the sura and verse attributed to 2:256 by the Pope and wrongly 'corrected' by Avnery to 2:257.

The offending Avnery paragraph:

"The Pope himself threw in a word of caution. As a serious and renowned theologian, he could not afford to falsify written texts. Therefore, he admitted that the Qur'an specifically forbade the spreading of the faith by force. He quoted the second Sura, verse 256 (strangely fallible, for a pope, he meant verse 257) which says: "There must be no coercion in matters of faith". "

Pickthall's translation:

[2:256] There is no compulsion in religion. The right direction is henceforth distinct from error. And he who rejecteth false deities and believeth in Allah hath grasped a firm handhold which will never break. Allah is Hearer, Knower.

Further,Pickthall:

[2:257] Allah is the Protecting Guardian of those who believe. He bringeth them out of darkness into light. As for those who disbelieve, their patrons are false deities. They bring them out of light into darkness. Such are rightful owners of the Fire. They will abide therein.

For those in need of verification go here pick a translator and put 2:256 into the search:
www.quranbrowser.org/search.html

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Proof that Islam did indeed spread by the sword:

Averny:
"How can one ignore such an unequivocal statement? The Pope simply argues that this commandment was laid down by the prophet when he was at the beginning of his career, still weak and powerless, but that later on he ordered the use of the sword in the service of the faith. Such an order does not exist in the Qur'an. True, Muhammad called for the use of the sword in his war against opposing tribes - Christian, Jewish and others - in Arabia, when he was building his state. But that was a political act, not a religious one; basically a fight for territory, not for the spreading of the faith."

Argument:
[2:256] There is no compulsion in religion. The right direction is henceforth distinct from error. And he who rejecteth false deities and believeth in Allah hath grasped a firm handhold which will never break. Allah is Hearer, Knower.

[9:5] Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

[9:6] And if anyone of the idolaters seeketh thy protection (O Muhammad), then protect him so that he may hear the Word of Allah, and afterward convey him to his place of safety. That is because they are a folk who know not.


Conclusion: there can be no doubt that the koran was spread by the sword.

Supporting Evidence:

(the following sura binds the world idolater to christians/jews)
"[3:67] Abraham was not a Jew, nor yet a Christian; but he was an upright man who had surrendered (to Allah), and he was not of the idolaters.")

Supporting Argument:

now the koran as revealed text, ie the sequence in which the suras were revealed shows that sura 2 came before sura 9; and under sura [2:106] "Nothing of our revelation (even a single verse) do we abrogate or cause be forgotten, but we bring (in place) one better or the like thereof. Knowest thou not that Allah is Able to do all things ?"

All that means:


whatever is in 9 supersedes that which is in 2. so the "no compulsion" in sura 2:256 is replaced by something better in sura 9:5/9:6

Supporting evidence on the sequence of the revealed koran

(2), 8, 3, 33, 60, 4, 99, 57, 47, 13, 55, 76, 65, 98, 59, 24, 22, 63, 58, 49, 66, 64, 61, 62, 48, 5, (9), 110


Wednesday, September 20, 2006

Petition: Fair play for Israel at the UN


Ahmadinejad speaking at the UN is the latest, but not the last or greatest, in the long history of persecution of Israel at the United Nations - condemnations, "Zionism is Racism" resolutions, anti-Zionist and anti-Semitic conferences. ..

The heart of the problem is the UN Division for Palestinian Rights (DPR). Please sign the petition to stop the anti-Israel circus at the UN and abolish the DPR.

Read the background and petiton below. . Sign the petition here: http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?unznn

Introduction:

The preamble of the UN Charter affirms the faith of the founders "in the equal rights of men and women and of nations large and small." Unfortunately, the UN has failed in its charter obligations toward one nation, Israel.

Israel is not treated as an equal at the United Nations. Israel has been the target of an endless stream of biased General Assembly resolutions, including the vicious "Zionism is Racism" resolution of 1975. Each year, the UN marks a day of solidarity with the Palestinian people on November, 29, "mourning" the anniversary of the UN Partition Plan, General Assembly Resolution 181 that partitioned Palestine in 1947 and created the State of Israel. Arab states and Palestinians refused to recognize that resolution. In a recent "solidarity" day, high ranking UN officials including UN Secretary General Kofi Annan, "mourned" the establishment of Israel and condemned Israel, while standing under a map showing "Palestine" in place of Israel.

In 2001, the UN-sponsored Durban Conference on Racism was a festival of anti-Semitic propaganda replete with the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, cartoons of Jews dripping blood from their fangs and "Zionism is Racism" resolutions. To her credit, UN Human Rights Commissioner Mary Robinson, not a friend of Israel, condemned the conference.

At the heart of this activity, under the banner of the Question_of_ Palestine, a special Division for Palestinian Rights (DPR) wages a tireless battle against the legitimacy of the state of Israel, sponsoring anti-Zionist and anti-Semitic events.

Fair play demands that the UN abolish the DPR and take steps to ensure that Israel is treated as an equal.


Background information on persecution of Israel at the UN is given at The Question of Palestine
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Fair Play for Israel at the United Nations
To the Secretary General of the United Nations, US Ambassador to the United Nations and EU Ambassador to the United Nations:
We, the undersigned, are concerned that the UN has been subverted for decades into an instrument to persecute a member state, Israel. This violates charter guarantees of equality for all states and detracts from the ability of the UN to function as a fair and impartial mediator in the Middle East. Precious Secretariat resources for human rights are diverted into one conflict and one problem out of many.


We insist that Israel be given equal treatment with all countries at the UN.

The UN Human Rights Commission, even after reform, issues endless condemnations of Israel, supported by notorious human rights violators such as Libya, Cuba, Iran, and Syria
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Israel is the only state that for decades was not part of a regional group and could not participate in UN bodies and consultations, and its membership is still restricted.


One of the seven Secretariat divisions for the entire world is a separate Division for Palestinian Rights. There is no separate division for any country or any other issue. There is no division for women's rights or basic freedoms, and no separate divisions for Tibet, Cyprus, West Sahara or other crisis areas.

Notorious examples of UN sponsored anti-Zionist and anti-Semitic NGO activities abound. They include the odious Durban conference that condemned Zionism as "Racism." A conference in Cairo supported the Hamas government and tried to torpedo efforts to force the Hamas to recognize Israel and participate in conflict resolution.

The Division for Palestinian Rights (DPR) and the committees it controls conduct an unrelenting campaign against Israel. The DPR fosters Non-Government Organizations (NGOs) that promote racism and attempts to impede peace efforts.

These activities and related anti-Israel initiatives have damaged the credibility of the UN as a force for peace and a neutral mediator.
We call on the UN to abolish the Division for Palestinian Rights and the associated Special Committee to Investigate Israeli Human Rights Practices Affecting the Palestinian People and Other Arabs of the Occupied Territories (SCIIHRP) and the Committee on the Exercise of the Inalienable Rights of the Palestinian People (CEIRPP).
Likewise, we call on the UN to complete the reform of the UN Human Rights Commission and correct its anti-Israel bias, and to allow the integration of Israel into the UN as an equal member which can serve in all UN institutions and committees.


Sincerely,
The Undersigned


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Monday, September 04, 2006

Back Again

Mea culpa on not being here. Been elsewhere. Anyway here now and these are my current thoughts:

On Human Rights Watch and Kenneth Roth and the worldwide campaign to discredit Israel.

As Maurice Osterman said in his Open Letter to Human Rights Watch Director, Kenneth Roth in the NY Sun here:


I read your article “indiscriminate bombardment” in the Jerusalem Post of August 18, with a mixture of sadness and astonishment. Sadness, because the type of biased reporting in your article, damages the credibility of your great
humanitarian organization.



Astonishment, because your methodology flatly contradicts HRW’s claim that it employs researchers to conduct fact-finding investigations into human rights abuses. The presentation of conjecture as facts in your article cannot by any stretch of imagination be considered as fact-finding,. The latter requires impartial examination and evaluation of all the available evidence without regard to whether or not it may contradict preconceived opinions. Allow me to be explicit.


Which he does get -con't

HRW -- http://www.humanrightswatch.org/campaigns/israel_lebanon/
The cover of his webpage contains a discredited as 'staged' photo from Qana. A Lebanese Volunteer carries a child killed in an Israeli air raid in Qana. (specifically on this page: http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2006/08/part-6-act-3-camera-runs-scene-2.html ) http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2006/08/corruption-of-media.html
In HRW report entitled :

Fatal Strikes
Israel’s Indiscriminate Attacks Against Civilians in Lebanon
the following discredited report http://www.zombietime.com/fraud/ambulance/ is given:
Attacks on Fleeing Civilians
Wounding of Six Ambulance Drivers and Three Patients, July 23
On July 23, at 11:15 p.m., Israeli warplanes struck two clearly marked Red Cross ambulances in the village of Qana. The ambulances, which had Red Cross flags illuminated by a spot light mounted on the ambulance, were transferring three wounded Lebanese civilians from one ambulance to the other when the planes struck. A weapon directly hit one ambulance, and a second attack struck the second ambulance a few minutes later. All six of the Red Cross workers were injured during the attack, and the three patients they were treating suffered additional injuries. One of the patients, a middle-aged man, lost his leg in the ambulance strike, while his elderly mother was partially paralyzed. The third patient, a young boy, received multiple shrapnel wounds to the head.107

Making medical or religious personnel, medical units or medical transports the object of attack is a war crime.108

http://hrw.org/reports/2006/lebanon0806/6.htm#_Toc142299224
One of these stories of the ambulances has got to be false.It's all here: http://www.zombietime.com/fraud/ambulance/

As for the movies:
hizbullah shooting Missles from Kfar Qana
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGnFMr4SgHs
Do Not Launch Missiles from your Garden
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0s_l8VYNP4
Hizbollah Uses Civilians
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ey3-LyxMts